StaceyPowers Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 How do you feel about massively oversized weapons in games? Does their lack of realism annoy you, or amuse you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatman Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Well, if it looks too big like it's been blown out of proportion, it's definitely going to be very funny having it. Something I'm well aware would be too heavy to carry by 5 people and one player can lift it with ease, that's crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m76 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 I'm a stickler for realism in games and generally adhering to the laws of physics. For example the "motorcycle engine powered minigun" in the upcoming FarCry6 is a big red flag for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatman Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Some games are definitely designed to take a shape very far from realism with what's obtainable in it particularly from the kind of genre the game falls under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blackangel Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 If it doesn't hinder the gameplay, I typically don't pay it no mind. But sometimes I look at and the bullshit factor diminishes the enjoyability of the game. For example Cloud's sword in FF7 is one that just annoys the hell out of me. Squall's lionheart gunblade is another one. These weapons are too big for them to be used the way the games have them using. A little bit of realistic weaponry is going to make the game a lot more fun that someone whacking their enemy with the fucking space shuttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withywarlock Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 More often than not I don't like it (oversized pauldrons I'm a stickler for, too) but I can get behind it when it's so rare it's comical. Like in Dark Souls, you'll sometimes play the game on your own for so long in your standard Medieval stasis gear, that you one day come across the phantom of a player with a great ****-off sword that just makes me burst out with laughter because it's so unexpected, and seeing them swing that thing around is even more hilarious. I can suspend my disbelief when it comes to monsters and magic quite easily, as I could believe there's a biology and physics explanation for those things, but for weapons, I tend not to believe it unless they have some place in the real world. I am however slowly warming to the silliness sometimes found in anime-style games. Valkyria Chronicles was a nice way of dipping one's toes in the pool.... until the dirty great drill swords came along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blackangel Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Vintage Stock here in town sells a lot of sword replicas from video games, that are full scale. They had an exact replica of Cloud's sword. I'm 6'4" and the damn thing is almost as tall as I am. Not to mention HEAVY AS HELL. I own a full scale Master Sword replica. The balance is way off, and at the length it's almost a damn claymore. You can ask @Shagger and @Crazycrab about those, or pretty much anyone with Scottish heritage. Those are some big ass swords. But with a sword that big I just can't help but be disgusted when a game character uses something that is completely impossible like that. Like I said in my earlier post: A little bit of realistic weaponry is going to make the game a lot more fun than someone whacking their enemy with the fucking space shuttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazycrab Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, The Blackangel said: Vintage Stock here in town sells a lot of sword replicas from video games, that are full scale. They had an exact replica of Cloud's sword. I'm 6'4" and the damn thing is almost as tall as I am. Not to mention. HEAVY AS HELL (not true, I'll explain below). I own a full scale Master Sword replica. The balance is way off, and at the length it's almost a damn claymore. You can ask @Shagger and @Crazycrab about those, or pretty much anyone with Scottish heritage. Those are some big ass swords. But with a sword that big I just can't help but be disgusted when a game character uses something that is completely impossible like that. Like I said in my earlier post: A little bit of realistic weaponry is going to make the game a lot more fun than someone whacking their enemy with the fucking space shuttle. This might be surprising to some but actual historical Claymores, despite being 4.5 to 5ft long were not very heavy, around 5-6 pounds or 2.5 to 3kg. That's less than a typical bag of shopping, a child could easily pick one up and skilled swords person could even use it with one hand. This was important because soldiers spent more time going to and from battles than actually being in them. So wanted to keep your equipment as light as possible. They were long blades that tapered both along the width and length of the blade, so the centre of gravity was very close to the handle. They were designed to be carried around because that what they would be doing with them 99% of the time. Even so Claymores were still pretty rare. Most soldiers/armies still favoured the longsword because you still use a shield with it. I think William Wallace might be the only notable warrior that actually used one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blackangel Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I wasn't talking about claymores being heavy and off balance. The heavy sword I was referring to was the replica of Cloud's sword. The off balance one is the Master Sword replica that I own. I only brought up claymores because the Master Sword that I have is almost as big as a claymore. It's a little over 4' (121.92 cm) so I just referenced it as they're almost the same length. The claymore is bigger, but the Master Sword right by me is a long damn sword. And it is ridiculously off balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazycrab Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, The Blackangel said: I wasn't talking about claymores being heavy and off balance. The heavy sword I was referring to was the replica of Cloud's sword. The off balance one is the Master Sword replica that I own. I only brought up claymores because the Master Sword that I have is almost as big as a claymore. It's a little over 4' (121.92 cm) so I just referenced it as they're almost the same length. The claymore is bigger, but the Master Sword right by me is a long damn sword. And it is ridiculously off balance. I know you weren't refering to Cloud's Buster Sword and I never referred to it. I just wanted to clarify the facts. I didn't want the weapon of one of my nation's most revered historical figures to fall into what is a very common misconception, especially since you litteraly asked and tagged me. I even went to the trouble of pointing out the design differences in a Claymore to The Master Sword Replica that you have because, since you have one, I thought you would know what I was talking about: 53 minutes ago, Crazycrab said: They (Claymores) were long blades that tapered both along the width and length of the blade Claymore: The Master Sword... ...Has no such taper, which is why it would be much more ungainly and impractical in real life. I run under the assumption that aren't stupid enough to think that it would, which is why I don't bother to mention it specifically. Do I REALLY need to explain in that much detail or be that specific for you to not to call me out for being right? If you don't want a dose of historical accuracy then don't ask. Edited September 12, 2021 by Crazycrab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazycrab Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Before someone misquotes me again I should probably give my opinion on the topic. I'm okay with oversized weapons for the most part. If Final Fantasy 7 wants me to believe that Cloud can spin a sword the size of him over his head then... Okay. It's all about context, is the world of game supposed to be realistic or a fantasy setting with it's own rules. As long as it's consistent within the world itself I'm fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killamch89 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 It depends on the game and the design of the weapon. I like Cloud's Buster swords and some of the oversized weapons from the Monster Hunter franchise - I'll have to say that swinging them around can be quite a pain at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blackangel Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 20 hours ago, Crazycrab said: I know you weren't refering to Cloud's Buster Sword and I never referred to it. I just wanted to clarify the facts. I didn't want the weapon of one of my nation's most revered historical figures to fall into what is a very common misconception, especially since you litteraly asked and tagged me. I even went to the trouble of pointing out the design differences in a Claymore to The Master Sword Replica that you have because, since you have one, I thought you would know what I was talking about: Claymore: The Master Sword... ...Has no such taper, which is why it would be much more ungainly and impractical in real life. I run under the assumption that aren't stupid enough to think that it would, which is why I don't bother to mention it specifically. Do I REALLY need to explain in that much detail or be that specific for you to not to call me out for being right? If you don't want a dose of historical accuracy then don't ask. Chill the fuck out. I wasn't calling you wrong or right. All I specifically said about a claymore was that it's a bigass sword. I referenced size between the Master Sword and a claymore, but I never went into such detail between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatman Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 On 9/12/2021 at 11:36 PM, killamch89 said: It depends on the game and the design of the weapon. I like Cloud's Buster swords and some of the oversized weapons from the Monster Hunter franchise - I'll have to say that swinging them around can be quite a pain at times. Personally, I really love the huge sword of Noctis in Final Fantasy XV - Engine Blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality vs Adventure Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Nothing like an oversized battle axe, scythe, or a hammer! I get excited when I see it, but only in a fantasy setting obviously. Wouldn't want Ellie in TLOU pulling out a 6 foot sword. Heatman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
