Americans Should Be More Upset About The Right Wing Assault On Education And Teachers

[Jayson]

17 minutes ago, Reality vs Adventure said:

I'll ask again, as a conservative you obviously are, do you support your leaders that engage in white nationalist conferences? 

No, I don't.   Actual white supremacists are morally vile and obnoxious.   Any association with them is something to be ashamed of.  Nonetheless, the talking points of white supremacists have some appeal to conservatives, but all in all, conservatives haven't gone off the deep end.

[The Blackangel]

7 hours ago, Jayson said:

No, I don't.   Actual white supremacists are morally vile and obnoxious.   Any association with them is something to be ashamed of.  Nonetheless, the talking points of white supremacists have some appeal to conservatives, but all in all, conservatives haven't gone off the deep end.

Are you fucking serious? Your kind committed terrorist attack on the capital, you're pushing white washing of education, you pass voter suppression bills, you're pushing religion into public schools, you make terroristic threats, you attack Democrats and liberals in general, you remove the LGBTQ+ community from even being fucking people, and you ban libraries from having books that you would object to.

There are even some assholes that are trying to get history books banned because there are images of ancient Greek pottery with nude people on it, so they are calling it pornography.

 

Conservatives are fucking idiots, lunatics, and fascists. They hate democracy, and support dictatorship under a racist moron. They are actively doing everything they can to destroy what is left of this country. The USA is long gone. We are the SA, or just America, as we're no longer united.

Edited March 8, 2022 by The Blackangel

[Jayson]

9 hours ago, The Blackangel said:

Are you fucking serious? Your kind committed terrorist attack on the capital, you're pushing white washing of education, you pass voter suppression bills, you're pushing religion into public schools, you make terroristic threats, you attack Democrats and liberals in general, you remove the LGBTQ+ community from even being fucking people, and you ban libraries from having books that you would object to.

There are even some assholes that are trying to get history books banned because there are images of ancient Greek pottery with nude people on it, so they are calling it pornography.

 

Conservatives are fucking idiots, lunatics, and fascists. They hate democracy, and support dictatorship under a racist moron. They are actively doing everything they can to destroy what is left of this country. The USA is long gone. We are the SA, or just America, as we're no longer united.

Some conservatives are more of the "South Park" type or Schwarzenegger type, while others are maybe semi-white supremacist or religious supremacist.  I'd say most are somewhere in the middle.

[Reality vs Adventure]

17 hours ago, Jayson said:

Some conservatives are more of the "South Park" type or Schwarzenegger type, while others are maybe semi-white supremacist or religious supremacist.  I'd say most are somewhere in the middle.

They are nowhere near the middle when they vote for scumbags. Who you vote for says a lot about your morality. They are just as guilty looking the other way while their leaders are traitors, racists, fascists, conspiracy mongers, and liars. Just as guilty voting for them,  and just as guilty as committing acts of bigotry themselves by supporting those psychos. I get it that republicans don’t like democratic policy and how they whine about civil rights. But damn, republicans would rather do away with democracy, put people’s lives at risk through open hostility and racism, have a civil war, commit treason, and have complete totalitarianism rule rather than to compromise with democrats. The middle is not the far right. Do you support Mitt Romney? He is the middle conservative type. The only other middle conservatives are the two on the Jan 6 committee, Cheney and Kinzinger, who the republicans are trying to ban from their party and censor. That’s all the middle conservative has got. Other than that, Andrew Yang is forming a third party that middle conservatives really should look into. I also like Andrew Yang and I hope his third party can develop into competition with republicans and democrats. If you want middle and hate democrats, then Yang is definitely the moral high road then to get sucked into republican fascism. 

[Jayson]

On 3/9/2022 at 2:41 PM, Reality vs Adventure said:

They are nowhere near the middle when they vote for scumbags. Who you vote for says a lot about your morality. They are just as guilty looking the other way while their leaders are traitors, racists, fascists, conspiracy mongers, and liars. Just as guilty voting for them,  and just as guilty as committing acts of bigotry themselves by supporting those psychos. I get it that republicans don’t like democratic policy and how they whine about civil rights. But damn, republicans would rather do away with democracy, put people’s lives at risk through open hostility and racism, have a civil war, commit treason, and have complete totalitarianism rule rather than to compromise with democrats. The middle is not the far right. Do you support Mitt Romney? He is the middle conservative type. The only other middle conservatives are the two on the Jan 6 committee, Cheney and Kinzinger, who the republicans are trying to ban from their party and censor. That’s all the middle conservative has got. Other than that, Andrew Yang is forming a third party that middle conservatives really should look into. I also like Andrew Yang and I hope his third party can develop into competition with republicans and democrats. If you want middle and hate democrats, then Yang is definitely the moral high road then to get sucked into republican fascism. 

There is recently a bill in Maryland supporting non-criminal prosecution for letting newborns die.  Now, tell me, who is on the right side of things?  Who is evil?  

[Lamarr the strelok]

And you don't leave a link to read more about your allegations.No clue WTF you're talking about. Sounds like Faux news bullshit.

[Reality vs Adventure]

12 hours ago, Jayson said:

There is recently a bill in Maryland supporting non-criminal prosecution for letting newborns die.  Now, tell me, who is on the right side of things?  Who is evil?  

I read that bill Senate Bill 669 in Maryland. First off, this would be better discussed in the abortion topic so it doesn't derail this education topic. But I've read the republican talking points and they are throwing accusations out there with no substance. The bill will protect the mother from failure to act in perinatal death which includes the 7 day period after birth of a fetus that survived an abortion. You guys are trying to make it sound like 'parents are killing babies!' You guys don't give a shit about pro life, not when the fascists you support are prone to racially motivated genocide and are anti civil liberties. 

[Jayson]

10 hours ago, Reality vs Adventure said:

I read that bill Senate Bill 669 in Maryland. First off, this would be better discussed in the abortion topic so it doesn't derail this education topic. But I've read the republican talking points and they are throwing accusations out there with no substance. The bill will protect the mother from failure to act in perinatal death which includes the 7 day period after birth of a fetus that survived an abortion. You guys are trying to make it sound like 'parents are killing babies!' You guys don't give a shit about pro life, not when the fascists you support are prone to racially motivated genocide and are anti civil liberties. 

The idea of "surviving an abortion" is so disgusting it should be thrown in with Nazi medical experiments.  A baby survives an abortion - and even then, nobody tries to save it.  It's sickening.

[Lamarr the strelok]

Sounds like you're reading a bunch of religous propaganda.I seriously doubt the situation you are proposing.Either that or some key facts are missing from your story.These situations are never as simple as anti choice people say.There have been situations where the woman will die if the fetus isn't aborted.Do some research on women's health instead of half ass scenarios.

                       To think conservatives are pro life is a joke. Otherwise they'd at least allow billions more in welfare. You know, when a 14 year old gets raped and is forced to have the baby like they'd prefer.Not many 14 year olds can make enough money to support herself and a baby.Nope they bitch about welfare cheats with just a touch or sometimes a lot of racism.And yes this should be directed or made somewhere else.

Edited March 13, 2022 by Lamarr the strelok

[Jayson]

7 minutes ago, Lamarr the strelok said:

Sounds like you're reading a bunch of religous propaganda.I seriously doubt the situation you are proposing.Either that or some key facts are missing from your story.These situations are never as simple as anti choice people say.There have been situations where the woman will die if the fetus isn't aborted.Do some research on women's health instead of half ass scenarios.

                       To think conservatives are pro life is a joke. Otherwise they'd at least allow billions more in welfare. You know, when a 14 year old gets raped and is forced to have the baby like they'd prefer.Not many 14 year olds can make enough money to support herself and a baby.Nope they bitch about welfare cheats with just a touch or sometimes a lot of racism.And yes this should be directed or made somewhere else.

Well, call me crazy, the people who weren't aborted are at least still alive, even if they supposedly are very poor or something.   Well, a baby is totally innocent.  However, it's debatable about people who are struggling in life, not to sound insensitive. 

Edited March 13, 2022 by Jayson

[Lamarr the strelok]

Come on.You're implying conservatives care about the poor?Also that's my point. Sometimes a fetus will die any way so they save the mother at least.This shit ain't easy to deal with.My mom was 84 when she died. She was around before Roe v Wade.It was as fucked as you can imagine. She was pro choice. Also abortions won't stop if they're illegal. Just a lot more women will die.Which I'm sure the christians will pray for when they're dead.I'm done here. I've said my piece.

[Jayson]

18 minutes ago, Lamarr the strelok said:

Come on.You're implying conservatives care about the poor?Also that's my point. Sometimes a fetus will die any way so they save the mother at least.This shit ain't easy to deal with.My mom was 84 when she died. She was around before Roe v Wade.It was as fucked as you can imagine. She was pro choice. Also abortions won't stop if they're illegal. Just a lot more women will die.Which I'm sure the christians will pray for when they're dead.I'm done here. I've said my piece.

The fact the fetus will die anyway isn't always the case.  Maybe it's not even the most common case.  It's simply murder to terminate pregnancies.

[Reality vs Adventure]

“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters,” trump said.

Yeah, that sounds like the party of pro-life. That pretty much sums up the republican party. And just a couple days ago trump speaks at a rally telling his supporters to "lay down their lives" to fight against critical race theory. So what does that mean? Does he want his supporters to make terrorist attacks on schools? We all know he incited the capital terrorist attack. And now here he is threatening schools and all the staff by inciting violence. 

As long as that party has people like that in it, and all the enablers, that party will NEVER be a party of christian values. 

 

 

Edited March 14, 2022 by Reality vs Adventure

[Jayson]

This thread has gotten too far off topic.  Anyway, as for education, yeah, each side has its extremists and is pushing an agenda.  Nonetheless, though, a lot of people simply oppose the cultural left agenda to a large degree, but not to the extent of "hate groups".   Maybe if those more moderate people want to enact laws for their states reflecting these feelings, they should have the right.

[Reality vs Adventure]

11 hours ago, Jayson said:

This thread has gotten too far off topic.  Anyway, as for education, yeah, each side has its extremists and is pushing an agenda.  Nonetheless, though, a lot of people simply oppose the cultural left agenda to a large degree, but not to the extent of "hate groups".   Maybe if those more moderate people want to enact laws for their states reflecting these feelings, they should have the right.

You don't know what the hell you are talking about and trying to say the extremist left and pushing agendas while in real life the right wing goes to school board meetings and insults gay students, one girl was crying and there is a video of it; right wing parents have physically assaulted students. A grown man physically attacked a female student for christ's sake. They are extremely hostile at school board meetings and even are training on how to storm those meetings. They send death threats to school boards and staff; school board members had their homes vandalized; militias like proud boys and people's rights stormed a school board meeting; All you have to do is a search on the web on the attack of public schools and all sorts of things come up what the right wing is doing. Then trump just recently says "lay down their lives" in reference to fighting CRT. 

Here is a link from what I mentioned earlier how a far right group of moms was infiltrated and how they spoke of bounties and monetary compensation to go after teachers.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/far-right-extremist-moms_n_61ba330de4b0456499dcc9bf

And finally, why would republicans pass bills to make it illegal to talk about amendments of the constitution in schools? All these amendments are now illegal to discuss in the TX bill: 13th, 14th, 15th, 19th, and 26th amendments. Or history like the civil war, civil rights, women's suffrage etc.?

All these things is now illegal to discuss in Tx schools and note that you can't even say the KKK is morally wrong:

 *writings of George Washington; Ona Judge; Thomas Jefferson; Sally Hemings; any other founding persons of the U.S.; Frederick Douglas's Newspaper; Northstar; Book of Negroes; Fugitive Slave Acts of 1793 and 1850; Indian Removal Act; Jefferson's Letter to Danbury Baptists; William Still's Underground Railroad Records; 

*Historical documents related to the civic accomplishments of marginalized populations; Chicano movement; women's suffrage and equal rights; civil rights movement; Syner Act of 1924; American Labor Movement; 

*History of white supremacy, including but not limited to the institution of slavery, eugenics movement, Ku Klux Klan, and the ways in which it is morally wrong

*History and the importance of the civil rights movement; MLK Jr Letter from Birmingham Jail; I Have a Dream Speech; federal Civil Rights Act of 1964; 

*Brown vs Board of Education; Emancipation Proclamation; Universal Declaration of Human Rights; 13th 14th and 15th amendments of the constitution; Frederick Douglas Narrative of the Life; An American Slave; Life and Work of Cesar Chavez; Life and Work of Dolores Huerta; 

*History and Importance of the Women's Suffrage Movement; Federal Voting Rights Act of 1965; 15th 19th and 26th amendments of the constitution; Abigail Adam's Letter Remember the Ladies; Works of Susan B Anthony; Declaration of Sentiments; Life and Works of Dr. Hector Garcia; League of United Latin American Citizens; Hernandez vs Texas; 

 

So please stop your lies and bullshit when it is your team fascist USA that is the extremists pushing agendas and it's all in the proof of bills they are passing, unlike your nonsense claims. It's all in the bills, all in the bills, all in the bills. You can't lie or deny when it's all in the fucking bills. Can't discuss the USA constitutional amendments? How anti-American are you people???