Racist Watch

[UleTheVee]

1 hour ago, Herschie said:

In my opinion, of course it's never ok to be racist, but then you can also be way too zealous with this. For example, the other day, my neighbor posted on a neighborhood watch Facebook page that a black man in a hoodie was in the alley. That by itself made everyone question why he said that. But to me, the more logical thing would be to assume that the guy in the hoodie was up to no good, not because he's black, but to give the guy who posted the benefit of the doubt. As it turned out, the black man in the hoodie was indeed trying to open up car doors, going around trying to see what he could steal. My neighbor made that ambiguous post in a hurry because he wanted to chase the potential thief, but later clarified why he had posted it. He ended up catching him, but because he hadn't actually gotten into anyone's car, the Chicago police ended up letting him go. I guess it would have been a lot of paperwork.

But boy were they tearing him a new one on Facebook. Here's a guy who I happen to know personally, who was just trying to do his part to watch out for his neighbors. A conservative white guy, if you're wondering. He's a good man who just doesn't want trouble in the neighborhood. Had it been a white guy trying to open up car doors, the response would have been exactly the same. I can honestly say that there's not a racist bone in my neighbor's body. But you should have seen the comments trying to make this hero out to be a bigot, a racist. It made me sick to my stomach.

Look, racism exists, we can't doubt that, and it's definitely on both sides of the political spectrum. I just think that we need to start giving people the benefit of the doubt a lot of times. 

I think I couldn't have said anything better even if I really tried.

[killamch89]

1 hour ago, Herschie said:

In my opinion, of course it's never ok to be racist, but then you can also be way too zealous with this. For example, the other day, my neighbor posted on a neighborhood watch Facebook page that a black man in a hoodie was in the alley. That by itself made everyone question why he said that. But to me, the more logical thing would be to assume that the guy in the hoodie was up to no good, not because he's black, but to give the guy who posted the benefit of the doubt. As it turned out, the black man in the hoodie was indeed trying to open up car doors, going around trying to see what he could steal. My neighbor made that ambiguous post in a hurry because he wanted to chase the potential thief, but later clarified why he had posted it. He ended up catching him, but because he hadn't actually gotten into anyone's car, the Chicago police ended up letting him go. I guess it would have been a lot of paperwork.

But boy were they tearing him a new one on Facebook. Here's a guy who I happen to know personally, who was just trying to do his part to watch out for his neighbors. A conservative white guy, if you're wondering. He's a good man who just doesn't want trouble in the neighborhood. Had it been a white guy trying to open up car doors, the response would have been exactly the same. I can honestly say that there's not a racist bone in my neighbor's body. But you should have seen the comments trying to make this hero out to be a bigot, a racist. It made me sick to my stomach.

Look, racism exists, we can't doubt that, and it's definitely on both sides of the political spectrum. I just think that we need to start giving people the benefit of the doubt a lot of times. 

What we have currently are a generation of snowflakes - every little thing is offensive to them. Back when I was growing up, I heard white comedians make mild racist jokes and they were hilarious as hell and I never ever took offense to them. I have seen black comedians make racist jokes as well and it wasn't offensive. It's like nowadays you can't say anything without people claiming you are racist/bigot/homophobic/transphobic etc. It has gotten to the point of retardation.

[Herschie]

Is it racist that I'm playing Madden '94 on Genesis, and it bothers me that all the players are white? My favorite players I grew up with, Richard Dent, Neal Anderson, William Perry. The Fridge! Black, black, and black. I know because I still have their posters.

[Jayson]

Oddly enough, Trump attracting racists - doesn't mean Trump's agenda is racist - at least, not at the level of Nazis or something.  In fact,  ironically, the Nazis were simply "socialist white identity politics (anti-capitalist)" - hence the name - National Socialist.  OK, so why are all these idiots supporting Trump?  Well, he's the lesser of two evils for them.  I mean, he's stopping illegal immigration - while racists actually want stop brown/black people coming in the US, period.

Edited March 12, 2019 by Jayson

[The Blackangel]

Prejudice is never going to go away. It's a human trait, unfortunately. I grew up in a white bred heavily Christian area. And growing up there, the word black didn't exist. Everyone here knows what words did exist. They were used as casually as you use hello. I was taught for 19 years to be a racist. And I won't lie, those words come out of my mouth easily and casually. Not because I believe them, but because of how I was raised. When you're taught something from birth for decades, it's hard to unlearn it. I'm 37 now, and I'm doing better, but I still use them all the time.

But I have to say, that there is one time that prejudice can be understood, even valid. When you're treated like dirt and scum by every person of a certain group that you have ever encountered, then you grow to hate that group. I'm in that boat. I personally hate Christians. All my life they have gone out of their way to shove the bible down my throat. And when I refuse it the condemnations come out and the names start getting thrown out. I've been called everything but a human being because I wouldn't accept their religion. And this is by thousands of Christians including my own family. So as it is now, I absolutely hate every aspect of Christianity. The people, the objects, the locations, all of it.

I like something Samuel Butler said:
"An apology to the Devil- it must be remembered that we have only heard one side of the case. God has written all the books."

Emile Zola said something good too:
"Civilization will not attain to its perfection until the last stone from the last church falls on the last priest."

[Jayson]

On 3/12/2019 at 2:28 PM, The Blackangel said:

Prejudice is never going to go away. It's a human trait, unfortunately. I grew up in a white bred heavily Christian area. And growing up there, the word black didn't exist. Everyone here knows what words did exist. They were used as casually as you use hello. I was taught for 19 years to be a racist. And I won't lie, those words come out of my mouth easily and casually. Not because I believe them, but because of how I was raised. When you're taught something from birth for decades, it's hard to unlearn it. I'm 37 now, and I'm doing better, but I still use them all the time.

But I have to say, that there is one time that prejudice can be understood, even valid. When you're treated like dirt and scum by every person of a certain group that you have ever encountered, then you grow to hate that group. I'm in that boat. I personally hate Christians. All my life they have gone out of their way to shove the bible down my throat. And when I refuse it the condemnations come out and the names start getting thrown out. I've been called everything but a human being because I wouldn't accept their religion. And this is by thousands of Christians including my own family. So as it is now, I absolutely hate every aspect of Christianity. The people, the objects, the locations, all of it.

I like something Samuel Butler said:
"An apology to the Devil- it must be remembered that we have only heard one side of the case. God has written all the books."

Emile Zola said something good too:
"Civilization will not attain to its perfection until the last stone from the last church falls on the last priest."

I think Christians tend to be hyper-conformists.  In other words, anything weird is bullied - especially if you don't conform to their religion and/or politics.

Anyway, what is your race, if you don't mind saying?  Why do you hate a certain race and which one is it?

Edited March 14, 2019 by Jayson

[The Blackangel]

I personally don't hate them. I don't have a reason to hate them. As for the rest of your question, it's already answered.

[Jayson]

On 2/13/2019 at 4:38 PM, UleTheVee said:

I think I couldn't have said anything better even if I really tried.

People tend to be judged by the way the dress - like it or not.  That seems to be the big problem with the Ferguson riots in the US etc..  In other words, this is racial profiling - but it's tough not to do so.  Well, actually, it can be deadly not to racial profile sometime - but some racial profiling is just being mean.  OK, an example of this in certain Asian nations - where a black face cannot get a job teaching English.

Edited March 18, 2019 by Jayson

[jonbones]

On 2/3/2019 at 11:21 PM, killamch89 said:

That was an excellent comeback, I can't lie. Not that I care for partisan politics.

 

This is incredibly naive & problematic

[Jayson]

So much of the racist stuff is tied - to being a man, so people who oppose it are reluctant to criticize it.  For instance, where I live - everyone's throwing the "snowflake" label.  Of course, this is to silence liberals - and to solidify people already racist.

However, though, despite liberal overkill - and there's a lot of it - to simply label anyone with compassion - a snowflake or square - of course is wrong.

Anyway, though, the resemblance of this "fear mongering" is so similar to the days of Jim Crow.  Of course, always portraying "the white man" as threatened" is a number that works as well as a well used fast-food recipe.

Edited February 29, 2020 by Jayson

[kingpotato]

I'm not a racist, but Skyrim Belongs to the Nords, just saying.

[Jayson]

On 2/29/2020 at 3:12 PM, kingpotato said:

I'm not a racist, but Skyrim Belongs to the Nords, just saying.

Yeah. there's always a problem when there aren't enough Europeans for a Chinese themed game - LOL.  Oh, that's so insensitive to say!

[kingpotato]

1 hour ago, Jayson said:

Yeah. there's always a problem when there aren't enough Europeans for a Chinese themed game - LOL.  Oh, that's so insensitive to say!

Im not sure you got the joke...

[Shagger]

Still think #Alllivesmatter is something justified? Time for a wake up call.

In many ways you are, in fact, correct. All lives matter, all lives are precious and nobody in the #Blacklivesmatter movement is saying otherwise, but you're missing point that they're trying to get across.

Imagine there's ten people sitting at a table in a restaurant. All of them have been served food except for one, who we'll call BLM. BLM's saying "I earned a seat at this table, so I deserve food." One of the other guests, we'll call him ALM, fires back saying "We all earned a place at this table, so we all deserve food." as he continues to eat off his plate. Now, ALM isn't wrong. They all did indeed earn a place at this table and so they all deserve food, but that doesn't change the fact ALM is sitting there with food and doesn't really know what it's like to be BLM sitting there with an empty plate watching everyone else eat. BLM isn't asking for MORE food than ALM, he doesn't value himself above ALM, he just wants what's fair.

Now, if you were one of the other guests at that table, would you help BLM get the food he deserves or just sit there because this is the norm? Of course, you would help, right? You would call over the waiter or restaurant manager to point out the problem so that they can correct it, but by saying #Alllivesmatter, is that really what you're doing? #Blacklivesmatter isn't about denying your rights and privileges, nor is it about bolstering someone else's rights that are equal to your own onto a pedestal, it's about a shining light on injustice. An injustice not created by fault of law, but by a failing of society.

So to all you people pretending #Alllivesmatter is something worth believing in, stop being mad that don't have a real movement to get behind, be relived you didn't need a movement to begin with. And while you're at, stop being so selfish and actually start believing in justice instead of your own privilege.

[The Blackangel]

I have 2 car window flags on my van that I bought from the BLM store. They simply say BLACK LIVES MATTER. I have supported the BLM movement for quite a while, despite the fact that I'm a white woman. Am I wrong for supporting it? No, I don't think so. I've been called a race traitor for it, but fuck those assholes. I'm not running out to join the NAACP, but that doesn't mean I think a black person's life has less value than a person of any other color. There have been many black people that I've known who, IMHO, held more value than any other person I knew at the time. I'm not saying they lost their value, but that I've simply lost contact with them over the years.

Racism is bullshit people. Get the fuck over yourselves.