Violent Games and Life

[Crazycrab]

1 hour ago, skyfire said:

There are also studies that show that video games do incite the aggressive behavior. And also cosnidering twitch stremers who trashtalk and also be negative SJW. You can see there is definitely connection with violence though people wish to deny. 

 

Aggressive, debatable at best, violent, not a chance.  Also the "Anti-SJW" angle is a political standpoint that has nothing to do with propagating violence as a result of direct exposure to the media.

 

Here is one of at least a dozen reports based on ACTUAL studies I can post, this one being from highly respected Oxford University.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2019/02/15/new-study-shows-that-there-is-no-link-between-violent-video-games-and-aggression-in-teenagers/amp/

Edited February 23, 2020 by Crazycrab

[Shagger]

3 hours ago, skyfire said:

There are also studies that show that video games do incite the aggressive behavior. And also cosnidering twitch stremers who trashtalk and also be negative SJW. You can see there is definitely connection with violence though people wish to deny. 

Why aren't you posting links? I know, because those studies are corruptly funded by the NRA and other such organizations who want to deflect blame on gun violence to anyone else. @Crazycrabactually posted evidence, why aren't you?

[SaucyPastaTho]

On 2/22/2020 at 5:47 AM, Joshua Farrell said:

Some video games are well, very violent. Do you think they influence the players to be violent in real life?

I know there are people that are pretty suggestable when it comes to suggestions and impressions others make to them. I can see some violent games becoming issues for people who don't know how to distiguish a suggestion made from a game, and a real life in person suggestion made by someone else.

It all depends how a person perceives whats happening in that certain video game.

[skyfire]

19 hours ago, Shagger said:

Why aren't you posting links? I know, because those studies are corruptly funded by the NRA and other such organizations who want to deflect blame on gun violence to anyone else. @Crazycrabactually posted evidence, why aren't you?

LOL so if there are evidences of violence by video games and shooting incidents that supporting it. now the study is funded. Nice reasoning and argument. I can see where this would go. And I am not your servant to post evidence when you have yourself closed your mind to searching the evidence especially with argument such as "NRA funded". As if bunch of commies and SJW socialist shite wont be writing liberal crap to deny the opposite. especially oxford, Harvard type of cesspool of SJW universities. Yeah cry me river. 

Edited February 24, 2020 by skyfire

[Shagger]

5 hours ago, skyfire said:

LOL so if there are evidences of violence by video games and shooting incidents that supporting it. now the study is funded. Nice reasoning and argument. I can see where this would go. And I am not your servant to post evidence when you have yourself closed your mind to searching the evidence especially with argument such as "NRA funded". As if bunch of commies and SJW socialist shite wont be writing liberal crap to deny the opposite. especially oxford, Harvard type of cesspool of SJW universities. Yeah cry me river. 

Wow. I mean wow! It's not like I expected a response that would change my perspective on the matter, but I at least expected one that was mature worded with due respect, but apparently that was asking too much. You can believe whatever scapegoating nonsense that the right wing politicians have forced down your throat all you want, but can you at least conduct yourself like a grown up? Thank you.

[The Blackangel]

7 hours ago, skyfire said:

LOL so if there are evidences of violence by video games and shooting incidents that supporting it. now the study is funded. Nice reasoning and argument. I can see where this would go. And I am not your servant to post evidence when you have yourself closed your mind to searching the evidence especially with argument such as "NRA funded". As if bunch of commies and SJW socialist shite wont be writing liberal crap to deny the opposite. especially oxford, Harvard type of cesspool of SJW universities. Yeah cry me river. 

If you are such a hardcore believer that game violence is a direct link to real world violence, then why are you still playing games? Aren't you at a risk of being corrupted by the games you play and going postal on your area?

[kingpotato]

There is to much comments to quote so I'm just going to recap as much as I can.

@Joshua Farrell sorry dude you kinda poke the beehive on this one xD. Following up on your topic, yeah there is a lot of suggestible people out there, but I dont think that videogames are directly responsible for violence. Regarding your comment about some criminals pointing out that their crimes where inspired or influenced in some way by videogames, well that might be true, but then again a crime can be influenced by anything or anybody if you have the imagination and motivation 😆 criminals will pin their crimes on anything just to avoid guilt. On a lesser example a parent will blame videogames for his kid not doing homework instead of taking the blame for not restricting hours of play and discipline his child. By the way you never directly said that you though that videogames where the cause of violence, you where just asking for an opinion on the topic and I think a lot of people on the forum misunderstood that. And as a fellow member welcome to the forum and I'm glad to see that you are more active here, its a small forum but is good to see it grow. 

@Crazycrab I agree with you I'm also sick of people that use videogames as a scapegoat for the reason of violence. For example not to long ago there was a school shooting in Mexico, surprisingly school shootings are rare here even though that the violence is at its peak on the streets. Basically what happened is that a kid killed his teacher and some students, the kid had a white t-shirt with the slogan Natural selection which is an obvious reference to the Columbine High School massacre, the shooters of Columbine had the same t-shirt. The Mexican governor blamed the reason of the shooting on a game called Natural Selection which is a damn unknown alien shooter that has nothing to do with the actual problem, he said the kid was influenced by the game, when he was obviously influenced by another school shooting.

@skyfire I want to start by saying that I appreciate you being part of the forum and I nominated you for the member of the month because you are constantly active and contributing to the forum. With that being said I disagree here with you dude, its not denying, its facts. I've seen some of the studies you mentioned and well they are mostly published by associations that are against videogames so the studies are probably biased. If those studies where true you and me should have been cold blooded killers since we play videogames a lot 😆 Aggressive behavior can be triggered by anything depending on the person, I remember there was once a case where some dude killed his neighbor over a unmowed lawn. 

[The Blackangel]

On 2/22/2020 at 5:08 PM, Joshua Farrell said:

those historical figures you pointed out, did not have access to violent games

Exactly my point. They weren’t violent because of video games. Also Ted Bundy isn’t a historical figure. But if it’s recent people you want then explain away Aileen Wournos, Gary Heidnik, Andrew Cunanan, Sante Kimes, and the two shooters at Columbine. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. None of them had an issue with video games, and had access to many of the same games we have today. Not the current entry of a popular series, but still the earlier entries which were still violent.

[StaceyPowers]

On 2/22/2020 at 4:55 PM, Shagger said:

In life, he has not killed any ship captains or crew, plundered any ships nor hunted sharks and whales in that time because he has a strong grasp on reality.

Thank you. “Strong grasp on reality.” That is exactly the matter in question here.

If a video game really did “influence” a given person to commit a violent act, what that draws into question is the person’s psychology. That person must have a difficult time identifying the difference between the fantasy world in the game (where there are no real consequences) and the real world (where there are real consequences).

Such a person is likely either 1-young and developing, and just needs more time and parental guidance, or 2-is an adult and requires psychological help from a professional so that they can learn the difference between fantasy and reality. It is this psychosis in their brain that ultimately produced their actions.

Video games do not feature actual violence. They feature simulated violence. No harm is done on any entity. When you riddle your pixelated opponent with bullets, nobody hurts. Nobody bleeds. Nobody dies. Nobody’s will is violated. There is literally no commonality there with an actual act of violence which entails pain, harm, loss of function, death, etc. for an actual person.

An actual violent video game would be one where if you push a button, a real living being on the other end would experience some kind of suffering. This thankfully is not something that exists. 

For a lot of us, gaming provides a safe psychological outlet where we can broaden our range of experiences without any actual loss of control.

It’s also worth pointing out that there are violent video games that teach lessons in morality. I would say that the BioShock series or The Last of Us are prime examples. Both series send messages of hope, kindness, love, and protection of the innocents.

Edited February 26, 2020 by StaceyPowers

[The Blackangel]

I think I’m a prime example of video games not causing violence, being that I’m a clinically diagnosed sociopath. I play some of the most depraved, gruesome games imaginable. And I derive pleasure from picturing people in more pain and suffering than most can fathom. But never once have I acted on it. The game Hatred doesn’t give me the thoughts that I should try it just for whatever reason. I don’t care enough about people to waste the time and energy on them. All the planning and time it would take to set up a location to do it isn’t something I care to waste time on either. I can do it in game, and dream it up even worse in my mind, and I’m satisfied. It takes little energy and I get to experience what I want. The only time I would express any of these desires is if someone broke into my house. I’ve gone on record with the cops that anyone breaking in will not leave alive. It is my 100% intention to kill them. And I will succeed in ending a human life.

Did video games have anything to do with any of this? Not a god damn thing. Actually the opposite. They actually STOP ME from acting on my desires. The violence I get to experience in game keeps me in check. So I can straight up tell you that violent games can actually be a good thing.

[TheSteelyardDweller]

no violent video games do not cause violence. bad parenting and mental issues and society not looking after people who need help  causes violence. people just want a scapegoat so they say games did it

[The Blackangel]

When kids get violent and do things like school shootings, the blame always goes to things Marilyn Manson and Doom. It’s never a parenting or bullying problem. But when a kid excels and gets into Harvard, then they had amazing parents.

Kid does good: parents are to blame.

Kids do bad: parents are innocent and it’s something else.

 

Pick and choose when and where it’s comfortable to be a parent. If your kid’s a fuckup it’s not the parents fault, but if the kid ends up being the dean of Harvard the parents get all the credit.

Cowardly. Pathetic.

[Dead2009]

On 2/23/2020 at 1:39 AM, skyfire said:

There are also studies that show that video games do incite the aggressive behavior. And also cosnidering twitch stremers who trashtalk and also be negative SJW. You can see there is definitely connection with violence though people wish to deny. 

No....no there arent. Anyone who blames video games as a reason for violence is just looking for a scapegoat. It was movies in the 2000s and it was rap/metal in the 90s. Nobody wants to take actual responsibility for anything nowadays.

[MeowsePad]

I've never seen any compelling studies linking video games to violence. They showed Jack Bauer stabbing a person in the neck with scissors on primetime television, so I don't see why there is such a fuss about video games.

[The Blackangel]

3 hours ago, MeowsePad said:

I've never seen any compelling studies linking video games to violence. They showed Jack Bauer stabbing a person in the neck with scissors on primetime television, so I don't see why there is such a fuss about video games.

There was an episode of Law & Order SVU where a girl did the same thing to her father. Not because of video games, but because he was a shitty father and she had finally reached her breaking point due to all his broken promises.